Evolution vs. Creationism: Listen to the Scientists

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"god made the ... ( 1 hour ago by WeedGreenPowerRanger)

"god made the scientists who they are and should get all the credit for tehir discoveries " Care to prove the existence of this god that should get all the credit for great discoveries (And not for horrible genocides, I presume)? Before you answer, understand that I am NOT an atheist.

"Essentially state ... ( 1 hour ago by WeedGreenPowerRanger)

"Essentially state elected officials, be they creationist or not, determine the state education standards and reading material, not the experts in the fields being studied." Which is why I think that the educational legislative system should be a Meritocracy, with government OVERSIGHT, not direct government legislation.

These arguments ... ( 1 hour ago by thomashughes25)

These arguments always fall, and lack actual evidence! Come on dude! I understand fully what your saying, But Why, does it have to be a who that created this, why not a How or a What?! Are you seriously saying everything we've acheived HAS TO BE credited to God!I'm sorry but that is just b******, so what your saying is that all the pain and suffering in this world is a direct result of gods actions on us! I fought he loved us ALL!! How does he pick who to bring pain too! Control freak!!

yes god gets credit ... ( 1 hour ago by SNCrangers12367)

yes god gets credit for everything, that he did, whether it be through us or by other means, and if there wasnt apin or suffering in this world we would never have a reason to believe in him or have nay sort of love or acceptance of him, i also prove this god is real by when he came down as the son, jesus christ, who DID live and continues to, he died and came back, and brought lazarus frm teh grave, all facts, i believe in science in whats its done, but GOD created it all,

Are you serious, ... ( 54 minutes ago by thomashughes25)

Are you serious, You joking right?! So what your saying is some people badly need to be ill so others can make serious choices to help them,which in return, God somehow likes this,Again what about the people that actually die,the people who will NEVER be able to prove their loyalty to God through helping the suffering, what about them, a bit unfair on Gods behalf ,thats really petty!! And the mind of an utter control freak, and a person who like to watch the suffering of people for his pleasure!

"yes god gets ... ( 51 minutes ago by Onithyr)

"yes god gets credit for everything, that he did" Sure, fine, okay, just as soon as you present evidence to verify your claim that he did. Oh and you still have not contended with the evidence in support of evolution or the fact that the scientific method is responsible for the very technology you are using to argue against it.

"i also prove this ... ( 48 minutes ago by Onithyr)

"i also prove this god is real by when he came down as the son, jesus christ, who DID live and continues to, he died and came back, and brought lazarus frm teh grave, all facts" No, see facts are observations demonstrated by evidence. Come back with some evidence and then maybe you will have an argument. Until then how do you contend with the plethora of evidence in support of evolution (which BTW is not mutually exclusive from Christianity)?

Come on ... ( 46 minutes ago by thomashughes25)

Come on SNCrangers12367 you HAVE TO BE JOKING!! Theirs no way on earth you would believe this drivel right?!! Look, i can prove to my family or wife that i love them, i dont need to kill anyone or make them suffer to prove that! You arguments are so weak!! I cant comment anymore because were gonna go round in circles, and since theres no evidence, AT ALL, for your beleifs then thiers no point of even trying to argue!!

sometimes we have ... ( 45 minutes ago by SNCrangers12367)

sometimes we have to use our finite minds to understand that we live past death, and if you can have faith in that whatever happens, youre gonna live, either here on earth or up in heaven, once again, if life were perfect, thered be no point in believing in him, very few peoplew ould express faith in anything if theyve never had an opportunity to experience, for me the world itself is enough, its people that have ruined it, and if god made everything completely equal and fair what would be point

Array ( 42 minutes ago by SNCrangers12367)

onithyr:
how can we take credit for such monumental things that in the end have no idea HOW they actualy got their, we know this things workings or this things properties, because of the complex minds and brains that we most definetly didnt create i dont have anythign against the scientific method or how
it helps us, it works, theres no argument there, its just the fact that some people think theyre so great they did it all on their own, when god gave us the power to do so

Read this and think ... ( 40 minutes ago by thomashughes25)

Read this and think about it: "Isn't it enough to see that the garden is beautiful, without having to believe that their are fairy's at the bottom of it too" Douglas Adams

ok lets assume yoru ... ( 39 minutes ago by SNCrangers12367)

ok lets assume yoru wife goes to work each day and your kids to school, you can assume and know that they are there working and learning, but when they come home you dont really know whether they were there or not, thats where faith comes in, you have it, just only for certain things, you know the store has food, but without actually beign there to see it, you really dont know whether its there, its faith, i cna believe in things that arent physical, becuase god is way beyond a physical being

then tell me did ... ( 35 minutes ago by SNCrangers12367)

then tell me did this beautiful garden just appear?, why is it so beautiful? how come when you mix seeds, dirt, water and sunlight and flower grows?, because god made it that way, for everybody, its just whether you want to accept that humans arent reponsible for the basic function of the universe

Again your ... ( 28 minutes ago by thomashughes25)

Again your misunderstanding what it means. It basically is saying you dont need the supernatural to SEE the beauty of something! The thing is im not saying their is or isnt a God (the creator of the earth, the one that just created the earth and that's it, not the religious kind) because who the hell knows?! what im trying to say in general, is that it doesn't necessarily have to mean it was person, a who?! :)

In fact i urge you ... ( 26 minutes ago by thomashughes25)

In fact i urge you to read your last comment 7 minutes before this, because youve made a massive contradiction...along the lines of "did this beautiful garden just appear"!! Think about it!!

"how can we take ... ( 18 minutes ago by Onithyr)

"how can we take credit for such monumental things" You mean like the computer network you're using to send me this message? "in the end have no idea HOW they actualy got their" Appeal to ignorance. "we know this things workings or this things properties" Yes, science is based off of observation and evidence. So what is your evidence in support of your assertions?

SNCrangers12367 I ... ( 18 minutes ago by thomashughes25)

SNCrangers12367 I absolutely agree what you say about the faith in seeing something which isn't in your line of sight yeah, but its a different, even you say its for different things. Your missing a VERY IMPORTANT point though. The point that ive actually seen, and the point that the belief is not in thier existence but in their whereabouts and actions. I know and you know this dude!!

"i dont have ... ( 15 minutes ago by Onithyr)

"i dont have anythign against the scientific method or how it helps us" And yet you reject the method itself and its findings when they interfere with your unsubstantiated assertions. Could it be that your claims are simply wrong? "its just the fact that some people think theyre so great they did it all on their own" Who thinks that? We certainly aren't responsible for the universe, but where's your evidence that ANYONE is? Why does someone have to be?

"ok lets assume ... ( 13 minutes ago by Onithyr)

"ok lets assume yoru wife goes to work each day and your kids to school, you can assume and know that they are there working and learning, but when they come home you dont really know whether they were there or not, thats where faith comes in" All things which can be tested and demonstrated if necessary. How can your ideas be tested? How can they be falsified? If they can't then arguing about them amounts to little more than mental masturbation.

"then tell me did ... ( 11 minutes ago by Onithyr)

"then tell me did this beautiful garden just appear?" Again through what reasoning to you come up with the dichotomy that something must either come from nothing or be created by an intelligent being? "its just whether you want to accept that humans arent reponsible for the basic function of the universe" NO ONE claims that we are. Our question is why do you assume that ANYONE has to be responsible in the first place?

Heh, The scientific ... ( 10 minutes ago by TheUltimateReaper2)

Heh, The scientific method has given us global warming pollution food poisoning and corrupt govermental systems bravo really you have done SUCH A GREAT JOB DESTROYING THE PLANET!!!

"Heh, The ... ( 8 minutes ago by Onithyr)

"Heh, The scientific method has given us global warming pollution food poisoning and corrupt govermental systems" You're right! We should just stop all research right now and not even attempt to continue and look for solutions to these problems through the scientific method! /sarcasm

How do you think ... ( 5 minutes ago by TheUltimateReaper2)

How do you think those problems were created in the first place? HMMM??? This is the result of science History is the observation and the dieing earth is the conclusion, think about it

Ok, fair enough! ... ( 3 minutes ago by thomashughes25)

Ok, fair enough! But doesn't god control us in EVERY ACTION?! Yeah i thought he did! which means he did it all himself, Oh no but he wont claim to have done all this would he?!! And since he hasn't shown his face in the past 2000 years then how would we ask him?1 how convenient!? Oh and the scientific method keeps us alive through medicine!! Unless you have a strong enough beleif in god to heal you then you will NEVER EVER stop using science!! Yet again another weak ass argument!

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